"A Case of Coin Telemarketing Fraud: Here's What I Should of Done"
Avoiding Fraud and Making Informed Decisions in Coin Investments:
Walking Liberty Half Dollars.
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by Daniel Goevert
www.US-Coin-Values-Advisor.com
One day back in 1985, I received an unexpected phone call at my
office from a man named Gordon Carl (not his real name - but whose real
name I'll never forget). The thing that initially struck me the most
about the polished Mr. Carl was his heavy New York accent, like
something you might hear in a gangster movie. The purpose of his call:
to offer me a "great deal" in rare coins. As a result of that
conversation, I agreed to purchase five 1943 Walking Liberty half
dollars Mr. Carl described as MS-65 specimens. Furthermore, he
guaranteed that his firm would buy the coins back from me at any time of
my choosing, paying 5% less than the "Grey Sheet" bid price. As an
unmarried "yuppie" (now there's a word you don't hear much anymore), I
calculated that I could afford the $1375 required to make the purchase.
Perhaps more than anything, greed clouded my judgment, and like a fool,
I trusted Mr. Carl and dropped a check in the mail the next day.

Later in 1985, Mr. Carl's company changed names. Rather than
interpreting this as a flashing red warning signal, I eagerly sought to
add more coins to my portfolio. Being a gregarious sort of fellow, I
attempted to establish a friendly rapport with Mr. Carl and his
associates. Looking back after all these years, what has irritated me
perhaps more than anything is how this shyster must have smirked every
time he heard my voice, for what a gullible, willing dupe I was.
In 1989, I decided it was time to cash in my coins, so I called Mr.
Carl. Not surprisingly, the company was operating under yet another
name. I couldn't get through to Mr. Carl, but ended up talking to his
brother, Maurice, with whom I had never spoken. I informed him that I
wanted to liquidate my Walking Liberty half dollars in accordance with
the buy-back policy under which I had purchased them. Much to my
disgust, he coldly declined, indicating his organization was not
affiliated with those earlier companies, and was under no obligation
whatsoever. In fact, he insinuated that he had never even heard of these
outfits before, despite the fact that his brother, Gordon, factored
prominently in these businesses. At that moment, the fog was finally
lifted from my eyes: I had been scammed! Not knowing what else to do, I
politely said goodbye, and hung up. I sat there, staring at the phone
for what seemed like an eternity, in stunned disbelief.
Several days later, I took my 1943 Walkers to a local coin dealer,
the first step in submitting them to a third party grading service. I
didn't expect them to grade out as MS-65, but if they came back as MS-60
or MS-63, I could at least begin there to cut my losses. The dealer
studied a couple of the coins closely under magnification, and then
sadly declared the coins were damaged due to improper cleaning. He
advised me not to have them professionally graded, because the cost of
grading probably exceeded the value of the coins. With few options left,
I put the tainted Walkers in storage, vowing never to repeat this
experience.
Let's now flash forward to the present time. Normally, I don't like
antagonizing myself, so it was with some reluctance that I fired up the
computer to play the game "What If?" That is, what if I had spent my
$1375 with a reputable dealer in 1985 to purchase Walking Liberty half
dollars? What kind of value increases would I be enjoying today had I
been smarter back then? To answer this question, I first retrieved the
historic value trend tables I researched in late 2005 for Walking
Liberty half dollars. For each date, mintmark, and condition, I noted
their values in 1985, and placed them next to their corresponding values
in 2005, for a "before and after" comparison. In all, there were about
450 such comparisons. Next, I calculated an annual compounded percentage
return rate for each data pair, and sorted them from highest to lowest.
I then listed the top 20 for closer examination:
| Date |
Condition |
1985 Value |
2005 Value |
Annual ROR |
| 1917-D Obv |
MS-65 |
$3000 |
$27500 |
11.13% |
| 1921-S |
F-12 |
$30.00 |
$250 |
10.62% |
| 1919-D |
MS-65 |
$15000 |
$115000 |
10.19% |
| 1917-S Obv |
MS-65 |
$5250 |
$35000 |
9.45% |
| 1918-S |
MS-65 |
$3000 |
$17500 |
8.76% |
| 1916-S |
VG-8 |
$30.00 |
$150 |
7.97% |
| 1917-S Rev |
MS-65 |
$3500 |
$17500 |
7.97% |
| 1921-S |
VF-20 |
$200 |
$1000 |
7.97% |
| 1921-S |
XF-40 |
$1000 |
$5000 |
7.97% |
| 1921-S |
MS-65 |
$22500 |
$110000 |
7.85% |
| 1918-D |
F-12 |
$8.50 |
$40.00 |
7.65% |
| 1918-D |
MS-65 |
$5500 |
$25000 |
7.48% |
| 1921-S |
VG-8 |
$17.50 |
$75.00 |
7.18% |
| 1921-D |
MS-65 |
$6500 |
$27500 |
7.11% |
| 1916-D |
VG-8 |
$12.50 |
$50.00 |
6.82% |
| 1938-D |
F-12 |
$25.00 |
$100 |
6.82% |
| 1938-D |
VG-8 |
$20.00 |
$80.00 |
6.82% |
| 1920-S |
MS-65 |
$3750 |
$15000 |
6.82% |
| 1917-D Rev |
VF-20 |
$45.00 |
$175 |
6.68% |
| 1938-D |
VF-20 |
$32.50 |
$125 |
6.62% |
The Walker with the best return since 1985 is the 1917-D (MM on
Obverse) in MS-65 condition. At $3000, it was well beyond the $1375
available to me to spend on numismatics in 1985, as were all nine MS-65
coins appearing on the above Top 20 list. However, the remainder of the
Top 20 represented coins in circulated grades, and all were within my
price range. Had I directed my hard-earned cash toward the purchase of a
legitimate example of each of these coins, I would have spent $1421,
just barely above what I forked over to Mr. Carl. Today, those same
Walking Liberty halves are cumulatively worth more than $7000. In pure
financial terms, this increase computes to an annual compounded return
rate of nearly 8.00%. If only I had known then.
Take note that all 11 of the Walkers that I wish I had added to my
collection in 1985 are recognized as key and semi-key dates in the
Walking Liberty half dollar series. The fact that they are for
well-circulated specimens (typically not the object of affection for
promoters and speculators) suggests that what has propelled these coins
to ever-increasing heights over the years is fueled by consistent
collector demand. We can expect to see similar patterns in the future.
If I were to conduct this same study in the year 2025, comparing retail
values then to what they were in the year 2005, the Top 20 would
probably strongly resemble the Top 20 in 2005.
What became of the 1943 Walking Liberty half dollars Mr. Carl
suckered me into buying? Well, I still have them, squirreled away in a
bank deposit box. I haven't even looked at them in a decade or so. As I
was writing the final words of this article, it finally dawned on me to
ask one more question: how would my investment have performed had these
been bona-fide MS-65 specimens? Taking the same body of data used to
derive the Top 20 above, I started thumbing down the list. going down,
down, and down some more. Finally, I came across the 1943 in MS-65
condition, on line 419. The annual rate of return of this coin since
1985 is a dismal -2.13%. That's a NEGATIVE 2.13%. Ironically, even had
Mr. Carl been an honest businessman, it still would have been a lousy
investment for me.
There are two lessons to be learned here: (1) If interested in seeing
your coins increase substantially in value in the years ahead, purchase
coins that have already demonstrated a long record of consistent price
advancements, which usually are the key and semi-key dates for a given
series, and (2) Deal only with reputable people.
So what ever happened to the slimy Mr. Carl and his band of thieves?
Well, perhaps there is some justice in this world, after all. In late
1989, about the time I discovered I was being victimized, the United
States Postal Inspection Service began an undercover sting operation of
the company. Apparently, I wasn't the only unhappy customer, but my
losses were minimal compared to the sums bilked out of others. In
February, 1991, postal agents stormed the "boiler room" outfit,
executing a federal search warrant based on a complaint involving the
alleged fraudulent selling of coins through the mail. Mr. Carl and
others were arrested and led away in handcuffs.
Postal authorities publicized that anyone with grievances against the
company was encouraged to contact them, to help bolster their case
against the defendants. Since I kept meticulous records, I had no
trouble assembling incriminating documents and forwarded everything to
the Inspector's office, tied together by my personal story. I never
heard exactly how the case was resolved, but it seems almost certain
these crooked telemarketers got what they deserved. As for me, I won a
small measure of satisfaction, knowing that I provided evidence to help
expose them. Now, if I could just figure out what to do with those
defiled 1943 Walkers...
by Daniel J. Goevert
http://www.us-coin-values-advisor.com
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